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November 30, 2008 Govt to Construct Obama Museum in Kogelo Construction Of A Museum In Kogelo The government will construct a museum in Kogelo, the ancestral home of US president elect Barrack Obama. Minister for tourism Najib Balala says the government has already set aside 5 million shillings for the commencement of the project. Govt to construct museum in Kogelo The government will construct a multi million shillings museum at the Nyang'oma Kogelo home of the United States of America president elect, and Barrack Obama's grand parents, tourism minister, Najib Balala has said. Already, Balala said, his ministry had allocated five million shillings for the project, adding that more funds will be sourced from both the treasury and the private sector. He was speaking at the Obama's home in Nyang'oma Kogelo, Siaya when he led a high powered delegation from the ministry of tourism to visit U.S.
President elect's grand mother, Mama Sarah Obama. Balala's entourage included the PS in the ministry Rebecca Nabutola, the managing director of the Kenya Tourism Board, Dr. Ongong'a Achieng and the director of tourism, Wanjiru Munene. Balala said the government was keen on cashing in on the Obama victory to woo more tourists in Kenya adding that his ministry will liaise closely with the Obama family to develop an appropriate tourist attraction site. The museum, said the Minister, will capture the history of the Late Barrack Obama senior, father to the president elect, history of the communities in Western region of the country and a reflection of the rest of the country. The Minister said that his ministry was taking advantage of the interest that people both locally and abroad had in the village in which the world super power's president hails from to open up the Western tourism circuit.
Dubbed 'The Obama Route', Balala said that this will stimulate tourist's interests in tourism potential sites such as Kakamega forest, Lake Victoria and numerous game reserves that have not been attracting tourists. 'The international interest that is developing because of Barrack Obama's victory in the United States presidential elections must be structured to take care of both the interest of the family, Kogelo community and the country at large' he said. Balala said his ministry will soon launch an aggressive campaign in the United States to market the country. Kenya tourism reportedly slumped by 30% following the post election violence.
In 2007, Kenya earned $620 million in the third quarter from tourists drawn to its white beaches and adventurous game parks. Officials expect this year's total earnings will reach only $665 million, representing a 23 per cent decline in earnings. Since Obama's election victory, Kogelo has revelled in immediate upgrades to electricity and roads, while Obama's grandmother has had tightened security at her home And this..
Also to be stored at the Museum are documentary explanation of the Obama family history and background that those featuring the Kogelo sub-clan as a whole. Meanwhile A Spiritual leader from the West African state of Ghana last week quietly slipped into Kogelo Village the home of Barrack Obama’s paternal relatives. Peter Anamoh is the first foreign dignitary to pay the homage to the Obama family. The other celebrity is the populist Congolese musician Kanda Bongo Man who visited Mama Sarah Obama ‘s village home two weeks ago, after performing a concert in the heart of Kisumu City, which attracted c lose to 500,000 people. The Ghanaian spiritual leader said he had traveled all the way from Accra Ghana to come and bless the Obama family.
He is credited to have predicted Obama presidential ambition long before he even made his intention public four years ago. Anamoh appealed to the Kenya government to establish an international conference centre at Kogelo alongside the Museum to serve as the last monument of the victory of the first African American to the presidency of the World most powerful nation on the earth. Wild Thing's comment..
OMG I found this while looking for a video on Kenya. LOL oh my gosh!! 'The CEO of World Net Daily has called on the President -elect to release a birth certificate listing the hospital and names of parents, the White House believes this would fully satisfy the Constitutional requirement don't you?
' 'I have nothing to say on that Lester, I think we're going to leave it right there.' Look at this!!!! Question about Obama's birth certificate avoided and then the press conference was shut down!!!!
Posted by Wild Thing at Taj Mahal Hotel Owner:' We had warning' Tata Group Chairman Ratan Tata, whose company owns the Taj hotel, discusses this week's attacks in Mumbai. Taj Mahal hotel owner: We had warning The Taj Mahal hotel in Mumbai, India, temporarily increased security after being warned of a possible terrorist attack, the chairman of the company that owns the hotel said Saturday. But Tata Group Chairman Ratan Tata said those measures, which were eased shortly before this week's terror attacks, could not have prevented gunmen from entering the hotel. 'If I look at what we had. It could not have stopped what took place,' Tata said in an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria that will air Sunday. 'It's ironic that we did have such a warning, and we did have some measures,' Tata said, without elaborating on the warning or when security measures were enacted.
'People couldn't park their cars in the portico, where you had to go through a metal detector.' However, Tata said the attackers did not enter through the entrance that has a metal detector. Instead, they came in a back entrance, he said. They knew what they were doing, and they did not go through the front. All of our arrangements are in the front,' he said. 'They planned everything,' he said of the attackers.
'I believe the first thing they did, they shot a sniffer dog and his handler. They went through the kitchen.' The 105-year-old hotel was one of nine sites attacked by gunmen in a 60-hour wave of terror that killed at least 183 people and injured hundreds more before it ended in a standoff at the hotel Saturday morning. Authorities carried out a room-by-room sweep in the 565-room Victorian building late Saturday to make sure that all guests had been evacuated and no gunmen remained inside. Vaidyanathan, an economist who was a guest in the Taj when the attacks occurred, told The Hindu newspaper on Friday that he had noticed tight security at the hotel when he stayed there last month. 'First, when you enter the open parking, where the cars are parked, you had a very heavy metal frame; your baggage was searched,' he said.
'At the entrance of the foyer, there was another metal detector, and you were personally searched and so on.' However, for this latest trip, he said, he could walk right into the hotel without encountering the same measures. Tata said the attacks revealed deficiencies in law enforcement, especially in the areas of crisis response and management. 'We were getting the cooperation that they could give us, but the infrastructure was woefully poor,' he said, As an example, Tata said it took three hours for firefighters to get water to the Taj after a blaze broke out in the oldest part of the building. 'We had people who died being shot through bulletproof vests,' he added. Tata said that not even the army or commandoes who ultimately took over the offensive were prepared for the level of organization and execution that the attackers seemed to have put into their plan.
'They seemed to know [the hotel] in the night or in the daytime,' he said of the attackers. 'They seemed to have planned their moves quite well, and there seem to have been a lot of pre-planning.' Wild Thing's comment.. Very interesting and I wonder why they eased up on the security so soon. Maybe there are so many warnings that they don't take them as seriously.
For this owner to say they had a warning, I admire him for saying what he did. That takes courage epecially when so many lives were taken and the families left behind have this nightmare to live with. We are so used to how Democrats never admiting to any wrong doing and never being punished. The democrat American way it seems. Posted by Wild Thing at Marines Face 'profound' Differences In Afghanistan Camp Pendleton's Maj. Thomas Waldhauser visits a market in Haditha, Iraq, earlier this month.
MILITARY: Marines face 'profound' differences in Afghanistan With relative calm in Iraq, focus shifts to nation's other war For U.S. Marines, America's war on terror is now in Afghanistan, where, a top general warns, there are 'profound' political, military and cultural differences from Iraq. Nearly six years after the invasion of Iraq, the Marines are now largely in a monitoring role in the Anbar province, all but declaring victory in the massive region once considered untamable.
By this time next year, Lt. Samuel Helland, commander of Marine Corps forces in the Middle East, predicted that as many as 15,000 of his troops could be in Afghanistan ---- 12,000 more than are there now. By the middle of 2009, Maj. John Kelly, who has led Marines on the ground in Iraq since January, said he believes the number of Marines in Anbar can be cut from the current 23,000 to around 15,000 or slightly fewer. John Kelly 'The Marines in Anbar have performed magnificently,' Helland said last week aboard a military aircraft as he returned to his Camp Pendleton home after a two-week swing through Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait and Bahrain. 'What was once a volatile, brutal environment is now changing, as Iraqis are determined to defeat their enemies and bring stability to the country,' he said.
While Iraq is a largely literate and modern society with oil revenue to fund its treasury, Afghanistan is one of the poorest countries in the world, with few paved roads. The opium poppy is its greatest cash crop. As the Marine Corps plans to draw down its forces in Iraq and move thousands more troops 1,200 miles to the east in Afghanistan if President-elect Barack Obama and Pentagon officials give the go-ahead, Helland was clear in a recent message that the differences between the two countries are stark. 'This is not Iraq,' he wrote in a message to Col.
Duffy White, who has taken command of the approximately 2,100 Marines now in Afghanistan. 'Your units will have a large proportion of Iraq veterans who accomplished great things in the Anbar province. 'That said, remember that Afghanistan is not Iraq.
The political, military and cultural differences are profound. Your unit must quickly adjust to working in a coalition environment. Once a mistake is made, the excuse that 'this is how we did it in Iraq' will not suffice,' Helland wrote.
Shortly after the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan and toppling of the ultrafundamentalist Taliban from the government in Kabul, the Marines left that country largely to Army and NATO forces. Their responsibility was Anbar, the expansive region of Iraq that borders Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Home to a majority Sunni population, the border saw thousands of foreign al-Qaida fighters cross into the region to join the home-grown insurgency. But when the insurgency began killing Iraqis as part of an intimidation campaign, Sunni leaders and tribal sheiks turned and sided with U.S. Forces and the protection and financial resources to be had. The result is that Anbar is now one of the calmest regions of Iraq, military officials say, leading to one general's declaration earlier this month that the work today is far more about politics than combat. In Iraq Kelly is succinct in his appraisal as he prepares to return to Camp Pendleton in February.
'The war here is over,' he said. The future security for the rest of Iraq is now almost solely dependent on the Iraqi government and its ability to bring rival political and sectarian factions together and prevent internal strife, the two-star general said during an interview at his new office at Al Asad Airbase in Iraq. His former headquarters in the city of Fallujah was turned over to the Iraqi army four weeks ago. In Anbar, the remaining threat is 'very, very manageable,' he said, adding that use of lethal force is now at a minimum.
'The biggest arrow in my quiver is influence,' Kelly said. Helland said the next six to 12 months, and the decisions made by Obama when he takes office, will go a long way toward charting the Marine Corps' future in Iraq and its pressing desire to increase its forces in Afghanistan.
'I see the Marine Corps continuing to move into a strictly overwatch role in Anbar,' Helland said, adding that the redistribution of troops will depend on conditions on the ground. 'The country has to continue to come together and have confidence in the credibility of its army and its police forces,' he said. 'It's certainly a different place than it has been, and we have to be able to take the training wheels off sooner rather than later.' Grunts such as Sgt. Juan Mendez, a 27-year-old Chicago native on his sixth deployment, said the years spent combating insurgents and training the Iraqi army have paid off.
'I think the fact that most of the guys haven't fired their weapons once during this deployment shows that all of our good hard work has accomplished what needed to be done here,' the mobile security unit section leader said during an interview at Camp Ripper, the Marine encampment at Al Asad. For the Marines, it's clear their new focus in 'the long war' against extremists is shifting from Iraq to the mountains and deserts of Afghanistan. In Afghanistan During an address to troops at Camp Bastion in Afghanistan's Helmand province this month, Helland made his prediction that up to 15,000 Marines could be fighting the Taliban next spring. 'What the commandant would like to do, quite frankly, is move the Marines out of Iraq,' Helland said. 'We want to grow our footprint and crush the enemies in Afghanistan.'
Defense Secretary Robert Gates recently said he would like to see three additional brigade combat teams ---- at least 12,000 troops ---- sent to Afghanistan well before the country's September elections. Over the last 18 months, the U.S. And NATO countries have increased their troop count in Afghanistan by 20,000, and commanders have asked for an additional 20,000, including 3,000 as soon as possible to bolster training of fledgling police forces. During his visit, Helland took part in several closed-door meetings with commanders as the Marine Corps plans for the troop build-up they expect Obama will order after taking office. Marine units from Twentynine Palms and North Carolina that have been in Afghanistan since the spring are being replaced this month. Unlike Iraq, Afghanistan is landlocked, a unique challenge for Marines who rely on ships to transport their vehicles and major weapon systems.
'Infrastructure is a very, very big challenge,' Helland said. That's evident in part by the fact that decades-old Russian transport planes are now providing much of the heavy-lift capability, under a contract with the U.S. The planes are among the few in the world that can hold the large, anti-mine vehicles that have stemmed the rate of fatalities from roadside bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan. The freshly deployed Marines that arrived in Afghanistan this month include a helicopter attack squadron from Miramar Marine Corps Air Station. Commanders say they expect the Taliban, which has traditionally retreated during the cold months, to continue a pace of attacks that has been the highest since the 2001 invasion. 'The campaign will go on through the winter,' Helland said. 'For the Taliban, it's fast becoming a fight for survival.'
That said, Helland emphasized that Afghanistan presents a host of challenges different from Iraq, including brutally cold temperatures. 'The climate is different, the terrain is different and the human terrain is different,' he said. In his message to his new commander on the ground in Afghanistan, Helland also warned Col.
White about civilian killings. 'Escalation of force must be applied judiciously,' he wrote. 'There is a low tolerance for collateral damage in Afghanistan.' Anbar took years, hundreds of millions of dollars and the lives of hundreds of locally based Marines and sailors to tame. The same steadfastness is paramount for what has been called the nation's 'other war,' Helland said. 'Afghanistan will require the same amount of patience,' said the three-star general, who also heads Camp Pendleton's 40,000-member I Marine Expeditionary Force. 'It will take time.'
How much time is unclear, and few are willing to put a number on how many years it will take to defeat the Taliban. There's a saying in Afghanistan that provides a warning for Americans hoping for a quick resolution: 'We have the watches; the Taliban has the time.' Wild Thing's comment.. I am so glad to read this, it is perfect timing since the post I did about the traitor Murtha and what he plans to try to insist on regarding Afghanistan and our military. It is almost as though the word is out about Murtha and his future trip and they want to make it very clear to Murtha and his ilk not to mess with the military, with the Marines, Army all of them. They are doing what needs to be done, they know the difference in the two countries and are letting him ( Murtha) know to stay out of it. I might be wrong but this is my take on this article.
Posted by Wild Thing at A Toast To Marines And this is another one that was made for the Marine Corps 230th Birthday. It is exceptional. Wild Thing's comment. This is a great video tribute to the Marines.Thank you Mark for sending this to me. Posted by Wild Thing at Mumbai Attacks: 300 Feared Dead The only terrorist captured alive after the Mumbai massacre has given police the first full account of the extraordinary events that led to it – revealing he was ordered to ‘kill until the last breath’.
Azam Amir Kasab, from Pakistan, said the attacks were meticulously planned six months ago and were intended to kill 5,000 people. He revealed that the ten terrorists, who were highly trained in marine assault and crept into the city by boat, had planned to blow up the Taj Mahal Palace hotel after first executing British and American tourists and then taking hostages. As it is, their deadly attacks have left close to 200 confirmed dead, with the toll expected to rise to nearly 300 once the hotel has been fully searched by security forces. And as Indian commandos ended the bloody 59-hour siege at the Taj yesterday by killing the last three Islamic gunmen, baby-faced Kasab was dispassionately detailing the background to the mayhem. He described how its mastermind briefed the group to ‘target whites, preferably Americans and British’.Some of the militants, including Kasab, posed as students during a visit to Mumbai a month ago, filming the ‘strike locations’ and familiarising themselves with the city’s roads.
Mumbai attacks: 300 feared dead as full horror of the terrorist attacks emerges The death toll in the Mumbai terror attack is expected to soar to nearly 300, Indian officials said, as details emerged of the highly-organised terror plot. Piles of bodies were found yesterday after commandos stormed the Taj Mahal Palace hotel, the last of three buildings that terrorists had occupied in the city. Three terrorists were killed in the battle. The end to four days of carnage came as tensions grew between India and Pakistan over the atrocity. It is believed that just 10 highly-trained terrorists took part in the attack.
Nine were killed and one suspect is under arrest. British and Indian authorities were yesterday playing down reports that some of the attackers were British, although this had not been comprehensively ruled out. The Sunday Telegraph was given the details of a secret interrogation report based on an interview with the surviving terrorist. The 19-year-old suspect, who lived near the Pakistani city of Multan, is said to have joined Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), the Islamist fundamentalist group, a year ago.
He is alleged to have confessed that he received weapons instruction at a training camp in Pakistan-administered Kashmir. The plot is said to have been planned from there. A group then made a reconnaissance of Bombay earlier this year. India believes a Pakistani merchant ship was used to transport some, or all, of the terrorists before they seized control of a fishing trawler to reach Mumbai (Bombay). The final leg of their journey was completed in inflatable boats. Pakistan called an emergency cabinet meeting after announcing that it would not send the country's secret service chief to New Delhi. The Indian government had demanded the head of the ISI travel in person to respond to questions.
Meanwhile, the former head of Britain's SAS has revealed that Britain is not adequately prepared for a Mumbai-style terror attack. He said hundreds of civilians would have been massacred if such an assault was carried out in this country. A final death toll will not emerge until the end of operations to ensure the hotel rooms and corridors are cleared of booby traps. However, S Jadhav, from Mumbai's disaster management unit, predicted the figure would approach 300. More than 600 people escaped from the Taj Mahal Palace hotel, the Oberoi-Trident hotel and Nariman House, which were held by the attackers.
Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Islamist fundamentalist group, is being widely blamed for the atrocity. Indian investigators claim to have obtained significant leads to synchronised strikes by gunmen from the testimony of the surviving terrorist. It is believed he and the other terrorists were instructed at the terror camp in Pakistan on how to maximise the number of casualties during an attack, using machine guns, hand grenades and other weapons. Television pictures of a satellite telephone captured from a terrorist appeared to show a constant stream of calls to Pakistan during the operation. Officials also said they had traced the group's route from recorded GPS co-ordinates on the devices. All the dead terrorists, as well as the captured alleged gunman, appear to have been born in Pakistan. The group also sent eight operatives on a reconnaissance mission to Mumbai earlier this year, Indian officials have claimed.
Wild Thing's comment.. They had primary “diversionary” attack targets, they killed pedestrians and then ran to their primary targets in buildings, to kill more people and take hostages.
From what I have seen in photos and in articles they did like a buddy system, one firing and giving time for the other terrorist to reload. Then a main group of them locked down the hotel.
The article in this post says they planed this for 6 months. Posted by Wild Thing at November 29, 2008 TRAITOR Rep. John Murtha: Fund diplomacy, not AFRICOM Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., center, enjoys Thanksgiving dinner at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center with Navy Cmdr. Fred Lindsay, on Murtha's left, and Air Force Staff Sgt.
Margaret Hill, on Murtha's right. Near the far end of the table is Landstuhl commander Army Col.
Also at the table were U.S. Army Europe commander Gen.
Carter Ham and Europe Regional Medical Command commander Brig. Keith Gallagher. Murtha: Fund diplomacy, not AFRICOM By Steve Mraz, Stars and Stripes Mideast edition, Saturday, November 29, 2008 LANDSTUHL, Germany More money should go to the U.S.
State Department for U.S. Efforts in Africa rather than to the military’s U.S.
Africa Command, said Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa. The chairman of the House of Representatives’ defense appropriations subcommittee made his comments Thursday at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center after visiting wounded troops and having Thanksgiving dinner with top U.S. Military leaders in Europe. “They should use diplomacy in Africa rather than military,” Murtha said. “We can’t win these wars militarily.
Nobody wants us over there. I think Liberia wants us. Nobody else.'
“You can’t just throw money at it, and you can’t win it militarily. It has to be done diplomatically. So I’ve been trying to shift money and convince the people that make the decision on where the money goes that more money should go to the State Department for those kind of things.” President Bush requested $389 million for AFRICOM for fiscal 2009. Earlier this year during the budgetary process, the subcommittee Murtha chairs recommended providing AFRICOM only $80.6 million in funding for fiscal 2009. In the end, AFRICOM’s budget was approved at $266 million.
Vince Crawley, a spokesman for AFRICOM, noted that Defense Secretary Robert Gates has already spoken about the need for the State Department to get a bigger share of the funding. However, “It would be inappropriate for us to comment on what members of Congress are saying,” Crawley said Friday.
AFRICOM, which stood up Oct. 1 in Stuttgart, as a unified combatant command, brings all Defense Department programs on the continent under one umbrella. Missions range from anti-terrorism programs in the Horn of Africa to maritime security initiatives and military-to-military training exercises in numerous countries. In July, Refugees International released a report called U.S.
Civil-Military Imbalance for Global Engagement: Lessons from the Operational Level in Africa, detailing policy and funding disparities between the Defense Department and the State Department. The report argues that the Pentagon controls an increasing share of foreign aid that used to be directed by civilian agencies and that priorities on the African continent do not reflect need. Murtha, a retired Marine colonel, was at Landstuhl during a stopover on the way to Afghanistan “to find out what the problems are there.” Murtha is well-known for accusing Marines of “cold-blooded murder and war crimes” for the deaths of Iraqi civilians in 2005 in Haditha. Four enlisted Marines were charged for their roles in the deaths, and four officers were charged in relation to the investigation.
Chupke Chupke 1975 Movie Download Free. One officer was acquitted and charges have since been dropped against everyone else except a staff sergeant, who is suing Murtha for defamation, according to the Associated Press. “Haditha’s an entirely different situation,” Murtha said. “I have the highest regard for the troops in the field, but in this case, these people didn’t die of a heart attack. They didn’t die of natural causes.
(The Marines) used excessive force, obviously. And I point out to the troops: Look, in a guerrilla war you can’t just go in and knock down doors. We’ve changed that completely.” While Murtha agrees with President-elect Barack Obama’s plans to withdraw U.S.
Troops from Iraq over the next 16 months, he is “very nervous” about a troop surge in Afghanistan. Obama has said he would send two or three more brigades to Afghanistan in 2009. Last week, Gates said he supported a troop buildup in Afghanistan that’s been estimated at more than 20,000 American troops over the next 12 to 18 months, according to the Washington Post. “I’ve warned the Obama people, and I’ve also warned my leadership on the Democrat side in the House,” Murtha said. “Let’s not be pushing ourselves into Afghanistan. Let’s see what the plan is.
What is the plan? How are we going to solve this problem now? I’m going to come back and report to them what I think should be done.”.
Wild Thing's comment. Murtha is a POS and he thinks he is all three branches of the government. “Haditha’s an entirely different situation,” Murtha said. “I have the highest regard for the troops in the field, but in this case, these people didn’t die of a heart attack. They didn’t die of natural causes.
(The Marines) used excessive force, obviously.' I want to say he's unbelievable but at this point nothing the senile old fool says surprises me. Seven out of eight Haditha Marines have been exonerated by IO's or a courts-martial panel but that doesn't seem to be good enough for Murtha. 'I’m going to come back and report to them what I think should be done.” We have a very competent SECDEF and military commanders!
I defy him to get on the and say his stupidity there so as to allow General Ward the opportunity to have dialog with him that will be on the record. Murtha wont.he’s too busy with accusing his own constituency of being idiots and his total LIES about Marines being murderers. Example of Rep. Murtha's blatant disregard for House rules: Posted by Wild Thing at Shoppers Stampede and Trample Worker at Long Island Wal-Mart Worker dies at Long Island Wal-Mart after being trampled in Black Friday stampede Wal-Mart worker died early Friday after an 'out-of-control' mob of frenzied shoppers smashed through the Long Island store's front doors and trampled him, police said. The Black Friday stampede plunged the Valley Stream outlet into chaos, knocking several employees to the ground and sending others scurrying atop vending machines to avoid the horde. When the madness ended, 34-year-old Jdimytai Damour was dead and four shoppers, including a woman eight months pregnant, were injured. He was bum-rushed by 200 people,' said Wal-Mart worker Jimmy Overby, 43.
'They took the doors off the hinges. He was trampled and killed in front of me. 'They took me down, too.
I didn't know if I was going to live through it. I literally had to fight people off my back,' Overby said. Damour, a temporary maintenance worker from Jamaica, Queens, was gasping for air as shoppers continued to surge into the store after its 5 a.m. Opening, witnesses said. Even officers who arrived to perform CPR on the trampled worker were stepped on by wild-eyed shoppers streaming inside, a cop at the scene said. 'They pushed him down and walked all over him,' Damour's sobbing sister, Danielle, 41, said.
'How could these people do that? 'He was such a young man with a good heart, full of life. He didn't deserve that.'
Damour's sister said doctors told the family he died of a heart attack. His cousin, Ernst Damour, called the circumstances 'completely unacceptable.' 'His body was a stepping bag with so much disregard for human life,' Ernst Damour, 37, said. 'There has to be some accountability.'
Roughly 2,000 people gathered outside the Wal-Mart's doors in the predawn darkness. Chanting 'push the doors in,' the crowd pressed against the glass as the clock ticked down to the 5 a.m. Sensing catastrophe, nervous employees formed a human chain inside the entrance to slow down the mass of shoppers. It didn't work.
The mob barreled in and overwhelmed workers. 'They were jumping over the barricades and breaking down the door,' said Pat Alexander, 53, of Crown Heights, Brooklyn. 'Everyone was screaming.
You just had to keep walking on your toes to keep from falling over.' After the throng toppled Damour, his fellow employees had to fight through the crowd to help him, police said. Witness Kimberly Cribbs said shoppers acted like 'savages.' 'When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling, 'I've been on line since Friday morning!' ' Cribbs said. 'They kept shopping.'
From and Wal-Mart Employee Trampled to Death By 4:55, with no police officers in sight, the crowd of more than 2,000 had become a rabble, and could be held back no longer. Fists banged and shoulders pressed on the sliding-glass double doors, which bowed in with the weight of the assault. Six to 10 workers inside tried to push back, but it was hopeless.
The person who was trampled to death was Jdimytai Damour, a temporary worker from Queens. Suddenly, witnesses and the police said, the doors shattered, and the shrieking mob surged through in a blind rush for holiday bargains. One worker, Jdimytai Damour, 34, was thrown back onto the black linoleum tiles and trampled in the stampede that streamed over and around him.
Others who had stood alongside Mr. Damour trying to hold the doors were also hurled back and run over, witnesses said. Damour, who lived in Queens, went into the store sometime during the night to stock shelves and perform maintenance work.
On Friday night, Mr. Damour’s father, Ogera Charles, 67, said his son had spent Thursday evening having Thanksgiving dinner at a half sister’s house in Queens before going directly to work. Charles said his son, known as Jimmy, was raised in Queens by his mother and worked at various stores in the area after graduating from high school. His family roots are in Haiti, and he had a brother and four sisters. Myrthil, who is Jean's son, said Damour was a big man and had no apparent health problems. Damour did construction work for a time and installed fences, he said.
Damour loved poetry, and he was a fan of the late novelist Donald Goines, the friend said.. Wild Thing's comment..
I never have shopped on the Friday after Thanksgiving, I can't stand mobs. There are just too many facotrs that make it hard to control a mob. In these photos at the Wal-Mart in Long Island, we see the spirit of the season brought on by Obama supporters. At the link for the article, I was glancingi through the comments that were made,l some that showed there is still humanity in this world but other comments by horrible peoople pushing their I hate whitie agenda as well as hate for Bush and their admiration for Obama. Here is one example: BDS to the max: “Hey rodent424, this aint WalMarts fault; it aint nobodys fault cept BUSH! He made this bad eonomy that made folks have to skrimp and hunt for cheap stuff cause they aint got no money on account of BUSH giving it to all his fatcat buddys like HALLIBERTON and FANNE MAY and his big banker buddys.
Now there aint no money left for the little guys so he’s got to go to WALMART when they gots stuff on sale so they can have a Christmas. BUSH need to resign NOW and let B.O.
Take over so we dont have no more mess like this of today.” These are angry people, one would think they would be so happy since they won the election. Happy that it is the Christmas season and be able to control themselves. But their anger is not going away just because Obama won, nope! Thoughts of this being a rehearsal for the upcoming Inauguration. Posted by Wild Thing at In Country With Our Troops In Afghanistan Posted by Wild Thing at Don Rickles on Letterman Rickles makes fun of Obama.
Crowd did not like it. Libs can't laugh at anything. This is from November 11th. That crowd is so uptight and politically correct. Shows how far we have fallen as a nation. Years ago the crowd would be rolling in laughter. Today everyone is so afraid of insulting this group or that group.
Rickles is an equal opportunity offender and a national treasure. The late night commedians have commented about ‘who will we talk about now’.they KNOW they won’t criticize Obama. But really, what are they going to do.keep kicking Bush for four more years?
And a lot of that fear they have comes from the racist Michelle and Barack Obama playing the race card their entire election. LOL.“These are new jokes, I’m trying out in front of a bad crowd.” Priceless. Don Rickles on Dean Martin Roasts Reagan Posted by Wild Thing at Barack Obama Commemorative Plate Wild Thing's comment.
The ad is so corny I was sure it had to be a fake ad, a joke. But it is for real, here is the website. Also one of my cousins said she saw the ad on TV and almost threw up. I don't blame her. Haha I told her I thought I would wait for the Velvet painting version, and she screamed into the phone.
Hahaahha I am so inspired I can hardly stand it! Everyone will be getting this for Christmas ( only kidding). Heh heh I showed this to Nicholas LOL.here is his comment.
'I only have one thing to say. ' Posted by Wild Thing at November 28, 2008 Obama and His Endless News Conferences The President-Elect, Talking Turkey By Dana Milbank Thursday, November 27 President-elect Obama had nearly finished his third news conference in as many days yesterday when he decided to favor his audience with one more tasty morsel of information about the just-announced members of his economic team. 'I want you to know that both Paul and Austan have special turkey-cooking recipes, if anybody out here needs some advice on how to make the ideal turkey,' Obama offered.
Let's leave aside the question of whether credible cooking advice could come from Carter Fed Chairman Paul Volcker or University of Chicago economist Austan Goolsbee. Let's also look beyond the question of whether, at a time when the economy has gone afoul, we want it run by people who specialize in making 'the ideal turkey.' The real news is that Obama had clearly run out of things to say.
It is a case of being careful of what one asks for. When Obama went to ground for about 10 days, making no public announcements and furtively slipping in and out of the gym, pundits wondered what had become of the 'transparent transition' he promised. But Obama buried that complaint this week with an extraordinary blitz: His second, third and fourth news conferences set a new record for a modern president-elect, and he still has nearly two months to go. But Obama is not in charge yet -- a point he makes with such regularity it seems to have become a tic. And so, after he makes the day's personnel announcements, voices concern about the economy and speaks vaguely about his plans, there isn't much left to say. In an interview with ABC News's Barbara Walters broadcast Wednesday night, Obama found himself talking about giving up his BlackBerry ('This is a problem') and his daughters' chores: Michelle Obama: 'They're gonna need to be able to make their beds and...' Walters: 'Really?'
Michelle Obama: 'They do that now.' Walters: 'In the White House they're gonna have to make the beds and clean up their rooms?' Barack Obama: 'Doing that since they were 4 years old.' Michelle Obama: 'That's gonna be one of my goals. Don't make their beds. (Laughs) Barack Obama: (Laughs).
At yesterday's news conference, the president-elect discussed his shopping plans in response to a query from the New York Daily News's Tom DeFrank. 'Well, we are going to do some Christmas shopping,' he said. 'And Malia and Sasha have already put their list together. It's mostly for Santa. They send their letter every year.
But -- but we may do some extra shopping as well.' At Tuesday's news conference in Chicago, Obama found himself discussing a reporter's headgear: Obama: 'I didn't recognize you because you don't have the floppy hat that you had during the campaign.' Reporter (picking up hat): 'I actually do.' Obama: 'There it is. Man, that's what I'm talking about.' The overexposure of the president-elect seems designed to reinforce two points.
First: He plans to hit the ground running. 'We need people who are going to be able to hit the ground running,' he said yesterday. This was the same wording he used on Tuesday, his strategist David Axelrod used Monday, his adviser Valerie Jarrett used on Nov. 12, his transition chief John Podesta used on Nov.
11, and Obama used back on Nov. Second point: that 'there is only one president at a time,' as Obama put it yesterday. Axelrod, Goolsbee and Jarrett have dutifully echoed the point on the airwaves. That's technically true -- but the actual president seems to have no interest in making news of any sort. Yesterday, he ventured into the Rose Garden to deliver the news that he was pardoning two turkeys, Pumpkin and Pecan. 'Pumpkin and Pecan have an exciting trip ahead of them: Later today, they will fly to Disneyland aboard 'Turkey One,' ' the commander in chief announced, before turning wistful.
'This is my final Thanksgiving as the president. Over the past eight years, I have been given many reasons to be thankful.' With that act to follow, Obama can't be surprised that people are treating him as if he's already the president. At yesterday's session in Chicago, CNN's Ed Henry gave him the business, demanding to know why he had tapped so many former Clinton aides and even a Bush man, the Pentagon's Robert Gates. 'Paul Volcker has been around a long time,' Henry pointed out. 'You talked about [how] John McCain was going to come back to Washington if he won and would just move people into different chairs. We got Tom Daschle, Hillary Clinton, Bob Gates --' Henry didn't even get to mention Rahm Emanuel, John Podesta, Greg Craig, Ron Klain, Eric Holder, Bill Richardson and the rest before Obama cut him off.
'First of all, that's not the topic,' Obama instructed Henry. 'We're not talking about my Cabinet, because I haven't made those appointments yet.' Wild Thing's comment..
LMAO I love how this article is written. They are seeing what a bore and egomaniac Obama is. 'The real news is that Obama had clearly run out of things to say.' Oh my, Obama is not even the president yet and his libtard media has grown bored with him. 'First of all, that's not the topic,' Obama instructed Henry. Wonder how long until the press gets tired of Obama thinking that because he's in charge he can speak to them with such impunity. Posted by Wild Thing at Russia to Obama: Normalize Iran Ties Russia to Obama: Normalize Iran ties Russia says it is in contact with the Obama administration in a bid to convince it to normalize ties with Iran and solve the nuclear issue.
Moscow hopes that “the new administration understands that there is no alternative to the political process and dialogue at all levels,” Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told Bloomberg on Wednesday. He said US President-elect Barack Obama would have to normalize ties with Iran to reach a solution to the nuclear dispute. “We are doing it bypassing the Bush administration and reach Obama's team] through our embassy in Washington D.C. And our contacts with people who are around Barack Obama,” Ryabkov added. The Russian official stated that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter to Obama was a sign of Iran's intentions that could open a new chapter in Tehran-Washington relations. Russia has repeatedly voiced support for a diplomatic solution to Iran's nuclear issue. Additional source Russia Has Contacted Obama Aides to Pursue Iran Nuclear Deal Bypassing the outgoing Bush administration, Russian officials have approached aides to Obama, 47.
The president- elect takes office Jan. “We are doing it through our embassy in Washington D.C. And our contacts with people who are around Barack Obama,” said Ryabkov. The Bush administration refused to hold high-level talks with Iranian leaders until they agree to suspend uranium enrichment. A letter of congratulations from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Obama was a “welcome sign” of Iran’s intentions to turn a new page in its relations with the U.S, Ryabkov said. Wild Thing's comment. Russiai sure loves to stirring the pot.
Medvedev also announced in a speech in Lima, Peru, that the Obama administration may renounce the US Missile Defense. Article HERE. I guess we didn't know we actually elected Medvedev as US president -- I doubt Obama will stand up to him. There is an excellent analysis by John Bolton: “If President-elect Obama carries through on where I think his real instincts lie on missile defense, which is not to continue it, I think in Moscow they will read that as responding to the threat and indeed the intimidation reflected in Medvedev’s speeches.
“ Posted by Wild Thing at A Special Video ' To My Parents' from Operation Mom This was made by the children of Vietnam Veterans and it is something very special. -- Wild Thing Please.Thank you Mark for sending this video to me. Posted by Wild Thing at Russian President Visits Cold War Ally Cuba Russian President, Dmitry Medvedev, left, walks alongside his Cuban counterpart Raul Castro as they participate in a flower offering in honour of Cuban national hero, Jose Marti, in Havana on Nov.
Russian president visits Cold War ally Cuba HAVANA Russia's president visited old Cold War ally Cuba on Thursday after meeting with his nation's new friends in Latin America in a tour aimed at reviving relationships that have frayed since the Soviet Union's collapse. Dmitry Medvedev arrived in Havana from Venezuela, where he met with socialist President Hugo Chavez and agreed to help the oil-rich South American country start a nuclear energy program. Russian officials deny that Medvedev's trip to Latin America — traditionally considered in the U.S. Sphere of influence — is meant to provoke the United States, but the voyage included meetings with Washington's staunchest opponents in the region. In Havana, Medvedev was greeted by Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque and Ricardo Cabrisas, the island's chief of foreign trade and investment. He was immediately sped away in a limousine without addressing reporters.
Medvedev later met with President Raul Castro, who was especially friendly with the Russians during the Soviet years. Earlier Thursday, Medvedev and Chavez toured a Russian destroyer docked in a Venezuelan port, one of two large Russian warships that arrived this week for training exercises in the first deployment of its kind in the Caribbean since the Cold War. Chavez saluted the captain, and while touring the vessel joked to reporters from the deck: 'We're going to Cuba!' The warships will hold joint exercises with Venezuela's navy next week. Wednesday's accords included a pledge of cooperation on peaceful nuclear energy. Moscow plans to develop a nuclear cooperation program with Venezuela by the end of next year, said Sergei Kiriyenko, head of the Russian Federal Atomic Energy Agency.
Cuba is the last stop on a four-nation tour, which also included visits to Peru and Brazil and talks in Caracas with Bolivia's Evo Morales and Nicaragua's Daniel Ortega. Wild Thing's comment.
Aw, look at the cute picture of Che in the background. How adorable.not. Posted by Wild Thing at November 27, 2008 Happy Thanksgiving To All, and a BIG Thank You To Our Troops and Veterans Thank you and thank you to all our Troops and to all of you Veterans. And I would also like to thank those of you that have loved ones serving now, sons, daughters, husbands and wives. You are serving too in such a special way. You are all in my thoughts and prayers every single day. Love Wild Thing.
Chivers and Staff Sgt. Chivers, formerly a Marine infantry officer, is a foreign correspondent for the Times. White is a dad, a soldier and a veteran three times over. Both spent Thanksgiving in Afghanistan, and the former told the story of the latter today: After all the turkey had been eaten, a huge soldier appeared for dinner.
He was 6 feet 3 inches tall and weighed 260 pounds. He introduced himself: Staff Sgt.
White, 29, of Sistersville, W.Va. He was an artilleryman serving his third combat tour, this one as a noncommissioned officer who coordinates and directs fire from artillery, mortars and helicopter gunships. As he prepared to fill his plate with the leftovers, the setting sun illuminated a fresh purple scar on the back of his neck. Then came his story. He was wounded when a three-vehicle patrol was ambushed on Sept. 15 in Jalrez. His vehicle was struck by a rocket-propelled grenade; shrapnel tore open his buttocks and his neck.
The ambush blossomed. More and more of the rockets flew toward the broken vehicles and wounded soldiers, he said. Machine gun fire smacked their windows and doors. Rockets struck the second vehicle’s turret alone three times, he said.
Ten other soldiers had been wounded by the time reinforcements arrived and pushed the Taliban off. White spent four weeks recuperating at Bagram Air Base, north of Kabul. He returned to his tiny base without having been home to see his wife and three children, who are at Fort Bragg, in North Carolina. Now he pulled something from his left breast pocket. It was a miniature metal placard of a Purple Heart.
“I will never quit,” its engraving read. Many of the soldiers here Thursday said that Thanksgiving meant football and beer. White, scarred and as large as a fullback, spoke of his children, ages 11, 5 and 3. “My little one, he’s my hero,” he said. “He was on his deathbed.
He was born six weeks premature, and he had internal bleeding. He took three blood transfusions, but by the time he was 9 months old, he was fine.” “His name is Gerald,” he said. “Gerald Jr.” He added: “I’m proud of all three of them.
I wish I could be there today. It’s a special moment. But I’ll make it up to them once I get home.” After eating, Sgt.
White returned to his post. A Polish patrol was heading north up Highway 1. Intelligence reports said that the Taliban’s spotters on the highway were organizing an ambush. He paced beside the radios as darkness fell, listening for the Poles, ready to call down fire. Some fun with our awesome troops! Thank you Glenn M.
Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET for the photos of our troops. Posted by Wild Thing at Strikers Prepare for Thanksgiving in Northeastern Baghdad Pfc. Katty Marie Le Blanc, a native of Boston, and Spc. Reuben Jones, a native of Gainesville, Fla., both of whom serve as cooks with the Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Special Troops Battalion, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Multi-National Division – Baghdad, display eight of the turkeys that will be used for the brigade's Thanksgiving dinner throughout the Adhamiyah and Sadr City Districts of Baghdad. Strikers Prepare for Thanksgiving in Northeastern Baghdad By Scott Flenner 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division FORWARD OPERATING BASE WAR EAGLE, Iraq Soldiers from the 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Multi-National Division – Baghdad, will enjoy a feast of fresh turkey with all the fixings this Thanksgiving holiday.
Three months ago, food service technicians and officers began planning for this celebration to ensure that every Soldier operating in their area was provided with a traditional Thanksgiving meal Nov. 27 – they have succeeded. Warrant Officer Darryl Goddard, a food service officer with 3rd BCT, 4th Inf. Div., who has been planning the Thanksgiving dinner at Forward Operating Base War Eagle, is ready for the challenge of feeding the more than 300 Soldiers there. “I am ensuring that Soldiers at FOB War Eagle and 4th Inf. Are supported with a little taste of home and I am working diligently to ensure they get the necessary feeling of home here in Iraq while in Iraq,” said the Norfolk, Va., native. That taste of home includes more than 800 pounds of fresh turkey, which will be prepared and fixed at the larger dining facilities and then pushed out to the smaller combat outposts and joint security stations.
“Every Soldier will get a good Thanksgiving dinner based upon patrol schedule,” said Command Sgt. Daniel Dailey, a Palmerton, Pa., native, who serves as the senior enlisted leader for the 3rd BCT, 4th Inf. “It will be a continuous operation throughout the day.” But turkey is not the only traditional food being served to the troops this holiday season. Sweet potato pie, apple cobbler and Baskin Robin’s ice cream are just a few other treats to accompany the feast. “I feel that it is important from a biblical standpoint and a moral standpoint for Soldiers on the battlefield be able to be comfortable and enjoy the Thanksgiving tradition that has been going on for centuries,” said Goddard.
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates expressed his gratitude to the nation's service members and their families in his annual Thanksgiving Day message. Here is the text of the secretary's message: 'In this season of hope, I want to say how uplifting it has been to get to know so many Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines during the last 24 months. 'Many of you are far from home, and I'm sure there's no place you would rather be than with your loved ones. But know that they, and all Americans, are free and secure because of what the men and women of the U.S.
Military are doing all over the world – from Fort Lewis to Fort Drum, from Korea to Kosovo, from Bagram to Baghdad. 'The holidays are a time to reflect on the kind of nation we are: a nation whose character and decency are embodied in our armed forces. Those who risk life and limb every time they set foot 'outside the wire.' The medical personnel, engineers, and civil affairs teams who improve the lives of thousands.
And all are volunteers. 'To the families of our forces: thank you for sharing your loved ones to defend us all. To our troops: we admire your selflessness and pray for your success and safe return home.
And to all: happy holidays.' Gates Secretary of Defense Posted by Wild Thing at Kabul 'bomb Attack' on US Embassy A suicide car bomber targeting an American convoy exploded outside the US Embassy in Kabu KABUL, Afghanistan A homicide car bomber targeting an American convoy exploded about 200 yards outside the U.S. Embassy in Kabul on Thursday, killing at least four Afghan bystanders as people entered the compound for a Thanksgiving Day race. Four Afghans at least 18 more people were wounded in the 8:30 a.m. Attack, said Abdullah Fahim, a health ministry spokesman. Police officer Abdul Manan said the explosion was set off by a suicide bomber in a Toyota Corolla.
Embassy personnel were killed or injured in the blast, an Embassy statement said. The blast happened on the last day of a visit by a United Nation's Security Council delegation. Had warned its staff in Afghanistan of possible terrorist attacks coinciding with the visit.
Embassy was hosting a Thanksgiving Day fun run beginning at 9 a.m., so Americans and other Westerners were entering the embassy compound when the bomb went off, sending some participants sprinting for the embassy gates. 'I was about 30 or 40 yards inside the gate.
There was a large explosion. I felt the shock wave, though it wasn't all that strong,' said Danny Cutherell, a 26-year-old aid worker from Virginia. 'We were about 200 yards from the blast when it went off, but we were behind the embassy wall and that protected us.' Cutherell said about 20 participants in the run had been locked inside a room with double-locking doors at the embassy's security checkpoint and that guards would neither let them in or out. 'We're here for a while,' he said. 'It was a bit shocking but it's also not that shocking because it is Thanksgiving and we had heard there was going to be tightened security today,' Cutherell said.
'It's just scary to be that close to it.' Insurgents attacks in Kabul have been rare this year, although they have launched a few spectacular assaults, including one targeting the Indian Embassy on July 7 that killed 60 people and left over 140 others wounded. Wild Thing's comment. God bless and protect our awesome troops. It seems the terrorists are putting the world on notice in the 'CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN'.
Posted by Wild Thing at Put Your Hand Up If You’re British or American Foreign guests react after being rescued from the Taj Hotel in Mumbai Put your hand up if you’re British or American GUNMEN who killed more than 80 people in Mumbai last night ordered hotel guests: “Put your hand up if you’re British or American.” Frightened hostages were marched off — and their fate was unclear. Local reports said they could include up to 40 British and other foreigners. Late last night police were said to be storming two luxury hotels, one of which was ablaze. The Oberoi and Taj Mahal Palace hotels were among at least SEVEN locations attacked simultaneously as maniacs with machine guns and bombs staged massacres that rocked the teeming Indian city. At least 900 were wounded as the wild-eyed terrorists, thought to be Islamic fanatics, opened fire and lobbed grenades indiscriminately. A rail station, restaurant and police HQ were also hit, along with a hospital where 58 perished. The Foreign Office was frantically trying to find out if Britons were among the latest victims.
Anyone concerned about friends or relatives should call the Foreign Office on 02 At the Oberoi, Brit Alex Chamberlain — who works for the Indian Premier League cricket website — told how he managed to slip away as up to 40 guests were herded up 18 flights of stairs at gunpoint. He said: “They told everybody to put their hands up if there were any British or Americans. “My friend said to me, don’t be a hero, don’t say you are British. “I am sure that is what this is all about.
They were talking about British and Americans specifically. “There was an Italian guy. They said, ‘Where are you from?’. He said he was from Italy and they said ‘fine’ and they left him alone. “I thought, ‘Fine, they’re going to shoot me if they ask me anything — and thank God they didn’t.” Fellow Brit Rakesh Patel confirmed: “They wanted anyone with British or American passports.” Later an explosion was reported after commandos were said to have stormed in. At the Taj Mahal Palace, British Euro MP Sajjad Karim told how he fled as gunmen burst in. Holed up in its basement with other survivors, the Tory’s voice shook with fear as he said via mobile phone: “A gunman just stood there spraying bullets around, right next to me.
“I managed to turn away and I ran into the hotel kitchen and then we were shunted into a restaurant in the basement. We are now in the dark in this room and we’ve barricaded all the doors.
It’s really bad.” He told of seeing “several people go down” as the gunmen opened up. A guest at a wedding reception said: “Everyone — the bride, the groom, everyone — just ran.” One hotel guest said a stairway was full of bodies. Amid the mayhem, police and paramedics used anything they could lay their hands on to transport the injured. Some were wheeled to safety on the hotel’s golden luggage carts.
Screaming Later, fires burned in the top floors as police reportedly tried to overpower gunmen. Screaming people were seen hanging out of windows of lower floors as firefighters tried to reach them with ladders and cherry-pickers. The hotel was used by the England cricket team just two weeks ago — and they were due to stay there again for next month’s Second Test. Last night there were fears the Test may be called off.
Plans by Middlesex County Cricket Club to fly out today for the inaugural Twenty20 Champions League were scrapped. The bloodbaths began at 10.33pm local time. Gunmen in jeans and carrying rucksacks fired AK47s and threw grenades at the crowded CST railway terminus — killing ten. At the police HQ, a frantic cop yelled down the phone: “We are under fire, there is shooting at the gate.” The chief of the anti-terror squad was among three top cops reported killed. Three more people died when a taxi was blown up near the airport. Another target was the city’s famous Cafe Leopold — a mecca for tourists.
It was left pitted with bullet holes — with pools of blood on the floor where diners had fled leaving behind their shoes. Journalist Sourav Mishra was wounded in the shoulder as he ate there with friends. Last night he was having to share a hospital bed with THREE other injured patients. He said: “I heard gunshots — something hit me. I ran away and fell on the road.” Hospital officials said a Japanese man had died there and nine Europeans had been admitted, three of them in critical condition with gunshots. An Indian government spokesman said four suspects had been killed in two incidents when they tried to flee in cars.
He added another more died at the Taj Mahal Palace Hotel and nine more were arrested. Mumbai has frequently been targeted by Islamic extremists, including a series of bombings in July 2007 that killed 187 people. A group calling itself the “Deccan Mujahedeen” last night boasted its members had staged the attacks. Police said: “The encounters are still going on and we are trying to overpower them.” Wild Thing's comment.. Even though these attacks happened far away, they were attacks on America and Engliand.
We need to being to exploit their every weakness and we all know what their weaknesses are but are reluctant to exploit them as we must follow PC guidelines even when fighting wars. For starters, don’t give terrorists in prison Korans and all the Islamic comforts of home. Posted by Wild Thing at Minneapolis Somali Community Reacts To Terrorist Reports Minneapolis Somali Community Reacts To Terrorist Reports The Somali community in the Metro has become fearful after reports that one of their own was a suicidal bomber.
Federal sources say Shirwa Ahmed blew himself up in a suicide bombing in northern Somali last month. They also believe he was a recruiter in the Twin Cities for a terrorist network. Government sources believe that as many as 40 young men who knew Ahmed, recently left Minnesota without telling their families. 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS talked to Ahmed's family. They said they have not heard from him in weeks. The report was the talk of this busy Somali market on Wednesday.
In south Minneapolis, many in the Somali community have been fearful to go on camera to talk about the reports. Off camera, people told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS they were concerned about how the community as a whole will be perceived after the incident. 'The bottom line is there are people who are recruiting here, kids who are being brainwashed to go back there and blow themselves up,' explained Omar Jamal with the Somali Justice Advocacy Center. Sources believe there is a strong network of recruiters working the Twin Cities, trying to convince young Somalis to surrender themselves for the cause of terrorism. CIA Director Michael Hayden acknowledges a growing tie between Al Qaeda and Somali terrorist groups. Federal investigators believe these missing men are training for terrorist attacks overseas, but can't be sure they won't return the Twin Cities someday to carry out an attack.
Wild Thing's comment. So those 40 went back to Somali, good and don't come back to America. ' Off camera, people told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS they were concerned about how the community as a whole will be perceived after the incident. ' Yes that's right, worry only about your neighbors being nice to you instead of the lives that were taken by terrorists.
Ever think of speaking out against terrorism instead of the don't pick on me BS! Posted by Wild Thing at 'We want all Mujahideen released' ~ Says Terrorist Inside Oberoi Hotel Co-ordinated attacks. 'We want all Mujahideen released': Terrorist inside Oberoi MUMBAI: A militant holed up inside Mumbai's Oberoi Hotel told a news channel on Thursday that seven attackers were holding hostages inside the luxury establishment. 'There are seven of us inside hotel Oberoi,' the man identified as Sahadullah told the channel. 'We want all Mujahideens held in India released and only after that we will release the people.' 'Release all the Mujahideens, and Muslims living in India should not be troubled,' he said.
Fresh firing erupted early on Thursday in Taj hotel as commandoes moved in to flush out terrorists holding some foreigners hostage after a night of terror targeting ten places in Mumbai. Army commandoes moved into the luxury Oberoi and the Taj Mahal hotels to flush out terrorists holed up hours after an unspecified number of heavily armed gunmen went on a rampage in ten places in South Mumbai killing 80 persons and taking some foreigners hostage. Fire and smoke was seen billowing from the hotel as firemen struggled hard to rescue over 100 people still trapped inside. Five suspected terrorists were killed in two separate incidents overnight including two during a gun battle in the country's iconic landmark Taj hotel, police said. Maharashtra deputy chief minister R R Patil said nine suspected terrorists have been arrested.
Schools and colleges were ordered to be closed. Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh said five police officers including Anti Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare were killed in one of the worst terror strikes in the country's financial capital that in all claimed the lives of at least 11 police personnel. 'The operation (by security forces) is still going on,' he said. Besides army commandoes, naval commandos and Rapid Action force personnel joined in the operations to rescue those stranded in the two hotels.
Five columns of Army and 200 NSG commandoes have been rushed. Two sten guns have been recovered by police so far, he added. Deshmukh said it was not immediately known how many terrorists were involved in the audacious attack in ten places that shook the western metropolis. The chief minister said the Taj and Oberoi are not in control yet. He said there are no terrorists in Cama hospital which was also targeted by gunmen. Police reported that some hostages were still being held at the Taj Mahal and Oberoi with eyewitnesses saying the gunmen had targeted foreigners after they kept shouting: 'Who has US or UK passports?'
Several guests were also stuck. Fire was still raging in the old wing of Taj hotel several hours after it was rocked by five to six blasts and enormous clouds of black smoke rose from the century-old edifice on Mumbai's waterfront. Wild Thing's comment. Execute ALL in Gitmo. Nuke Mecca and Medina.
These Muslimes are trying to kill the civilised world by a thousand cuts. Every mosque or school that produced those men should be razed with napalm and every dime that is in their bank accounts paid to the surviving family members. Every apologist should be jailed and we should CONTINUE the policy of actively seeking every person that's been educated or trained at their facilities. OK Your move, punk!
Posted by Wild Thing at President Bush Visiting Troops At Fort Campbell, Ky President George W. Bush as he enters the staging area Tuesday, Nov. 25, 2008, at Fort Campbell, Ky., home of the 101st Airborne. The President told the troops, “We are blessed to have defenders of such character and courage.” “I’m grateful to the families who serve by your side.
And I will always be thankful for the honor of having served as the Commander-in-Chief.” “Over the past seven years, folks from this base have done exactly what they were trained to do.” “You have taken the battle of the terrorists overseas so we do not have to face them here in the United States. You have helped counter the hateful ideology of tyranny and terror with a more hopeful vision of justice and liberty. You’re part of the great ideological struggle of our time.
With the soldiers of Fort Campbell out front, the forces of freedom and liberty will prevail.” “In Iraq, Afghanistan, and beyond, our men and women in uniform have done everything we have asked of them and more,” said the President. “You’ve earned the thanks of every American.” “I’m honored to be with the Screaming Eagles of the 101st Airborne; the Night Stalkers of the 160th; the Green Berets of the 5th Special Forces Group, all members of the Fort Campbell community.
You are part of the finest military in the world. I have one word for you: Hooah!” President George W. Bush stands with troops on stage Tuesday, Nov. 25, 2008, at Fort Campbell, Ky.,one of the Army’s premier training and deployment installations and home of the Screaming Eagles of the 101st Airborne. White House photo by Eric Draper Posted by Wild Thing at November 26, 2008 British and Americans Targeted in Co-Ordinated Bombay Attacks ( info. And Photos ) Remains of a taxi after terror attack at western express highway near domestic airport in Mumbai A policeman walks with an elderly man after shootings by unidentified assailants at a railway station in Mumbai A policeman gives water to an injured child at a hospital in Mumbai Police officers at the scene of a restaurant attack in Mumbai, India in this image made from television, Wednesday, Nov. Gunmen targeted luxury hotels, a popular tourist attraction and a crowded train station in at least seven attacks in India's financial capital Wednesday, wounding 25 people, police and witnesses said.
A.N Roy police commissioner of Maharashtra state, of which Mumbai is the capital, said several people had been wounded in the attacks and police were battling the gunmen. 'The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed,' said Roy. Gunmen opened fire on two of the city's best known Luxury hotels, the Taj Mahal and the Oberoi. They also attacked the crowded Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus station in southern Mumbai and Leopold's restaurant, a Mumbai landmark. It was not immediately clear what the motive was for the attacks. (AP Photo/NDTV) Wild Thing's comment.
Here is a link to the Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 250 injured MUMBAI: Terror struck the country's financial capital late on Wednesday night as coordinate serial explosions and indiscriminate firing rocked eight areas across Mumbai including the crowded CST railway station, two five star hotels--Oberoi and Taj. At least 80 people were dead and 250 injured in the terror attacks, hospital sources said. Two terrorists were still inside the Oberoi Hotel and commando operation was on.
Terrorists hijacked white police jeep near Metro cinema in South Mumbai. Firing was also reported near Maharashtra state assembly building in South Mumbai. Armed with AK-47 rifles and grenades, a couple of terrorists entered the passenger hall of CST and opened fire and threw grenades, Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A K Sharma said. The terror strike which began at 10:33 PM at Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus(CST), formerly known as the Victoria Terminus(VT), claimed 10 lives in the premises of the station alone, police said. Three persons were killed in a bomb explosion in a taxi on Mazegaon dockyard road and an equal number were gunned down at Taj Hotel.
The victims in the hotel were its employees. The lobby of the Oberoi hotel was on fire and the hotel evacuated, eyewitnesses said. Maharashtra DGP A N Roy said tonight's attack in 'at least seven places' is a 'terror strike.' Sharma said 30 persons were injured in the CST incident. Commandoes were rushed to the CST which wore a deserted look and train services suspended.
Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh is cutting his Kerala visit and returning to Mumbai. He described the situation in Mumbai as 'very serious'. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has condemned terror attacks in Mumbai and assured Maharashtra government of all assistance. The NSG commandos were on standby and national disaster response force unit is being rushed to Mumbai, the Ministry of Home Affairs officials said. Some people were injured in the firing in Oberoi hotel, and taken to a nearby hospital in police vans and ambulance. Firing was also reported in Taj hotel.
Firing was reported at Colaba, Nariman Point and near Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminal, formerly Victoria Terminus and it was still continuing. Firing was also reported at Cama Hospital in south Mumbai, police said, adding that a blast was reported in a taxi under a flyover in suburban Vile Parle. A bomb went off in a taxi in Mazegaon dockyard road.
SRPF personnel then entered the iconic BMC building -- just opposite CST -- to take aim at the assailants, BMC commissioner Jairaj Phatak said. 'We fear some of the assailants are still inside the station and we want to catch them if they come out,' a police official said. Vikhroli police station senior inspector Habib Ansari was on his way to work from his Colaba home when he saw two armed men, with sophisticated weaponry, trying to run into bylanes near the Gateway of India.
'I rushed back to Colaba and all policemen, including GRP and RPF personnel, were called up,' he added. Bhisham Mansukhani, a journalist, was attending a wedding reception at the Taj's Crystal Room. 'I was inside the bar when glass shards almost hit my eye,' he said.
'More than 200 people were escorted inside Chambers, a business centre inside the hotel,' he added. UPDATE: A taxi filled with ammunition was found in the suburbs of Mumbai, India, IBN reported Nov.
26, adding that attacks could spread to the city’s western suburbs. A boat filled with ammunition and explosives was found near the Gateway in Mumbai; the explosives used in the Mumbai attacks reportedly came in via the sea, IBN reported. UPDATE: From Rhys Blakely in Bombay Gunmen stalked a hotel in Bombay looking for British and US passport holders during co-ordinated attacks across the city that have left at least 18 dead.
A series of shootings and bomb blasts at luxury hotels and bars in the south of the city hit at least nine locations. Security sources said “a major terror attack” was unfolding.
Shootings were reported in the lobby of the five-star Taj Mahal Palace hotel in the Colaba area of south Bombay and at the nearby Leopolds bar, a popular destination with western backpackers. Witnesses described pools of blood and bullet scarred walls at both locations. “Speaking via mobile phone, he said: “I was in the lobby of the hotel when gunmen came in and people started running A gunman just stood there spraying bullets around, right next to me.” A witness at the hotel told a local television station: “They wanted anyone with British or American passports. 'They wanted foreigners.” It was feared that the death toll could rise significantly.
The Times of India reported that more than 80 people had lost their lives. Nearby, witnesses described a “high intensity” bomb blast at the Oberoi hotel, also in the south of the city, a regular meeting place for businessmen and wealthy tourists. Paramilitary forces were readying to storm the tower-block building, one of Bombay’s best-known landmarks as smoke continued to pour from the hotel lobby amid fears that hostages were being held by gunmen inside. Wild Thing's comment.. The attacks were targeting British and American Nationals.
The man on TV in India said the places that were chosen by the terrorists are places that are frequented by Britich and Americans. Posted by Wild Thing at Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate Joe the Farmer (The pen name Joe the Farmer pays tribute to Joe the Plumber, who had the audacity to ask a question.) Does this Barack Obama birth certificate issue bug you because, although improbable, it's possible that he's not a natural born citizen, isn't eligible to be President under the Constitution, and this issue could be bigger than Watergate -- or any other 'gate' in history?
Are you afraid that if you were even to raise the subject with your friends that they will think you wear a tinfoil hat, because Factcheck.org, the final arbiter of truth in the universe, said so? Are you with the news media, and after spending so much money to get Barack Obama elected, you'd hate to ruin your investment? Are you a talk radio host who thinks that if you say the burden of proof needed to demonstrate one is eligible to be Commander in Chief should be at least as high as, oh, say, the level to be eligible for Hawaiian homestead status (see 1.F. Below), that you'd be forced to give equal time to someone who disagrees?
Are you a conservative, libertarian, or any conscientious constitutionalist from any ideological side of life, who's convinced something's not right, but you're afraid your reputation might be tarnished because, after all, this could be one big Saul-Alinsky-style set-up, and the joke would be on you? Joe the Farmer has prepared an outline showing that no matter how this issue is ultimately resolved, you have legitimate concerns, and that Barack Obama should, simply out of respect for the nation he was elected to lead, disclose the sealed vault copy of his birth certificate.
Given the circumstances, if Barack Obama respected this nation, he would prove it by the simplest and easiest of gestures - unless, of course, all this talk about change and hope was just a bunch of bull, and he's just 'another politician.' Here's the outline: 1. Under Hawaiian law, it is possible (both legally and illegally) for a person to have been born out of state, yet have a birth certificate on file in the Department of Health. From Hawaii's official Department of Health, Vital Records: 'Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country' (applies to adopted children). A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.
Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3. Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program. From its: 'In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout).
Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.' Contrary to what you may have read, no document made available to the public, nor any statement by Hawaiian officials, evidences conclusively that Obama was born in Hawaii. Associated Press reported about a statement of Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Fukino, 'State declares Obama birth certificate genuine.' That October 31, 2008 statement says that Dr. Fukino 'ha[s] personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen.
Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.' That statement does not, however, verify that Obama was born in Hawaii, and as explained above, under Hawaiian policies and procedures it is quite possible that Hawaii may have a birth record of a person not born in Hawaii. Unlikely, but possible. The document that the Obama campaign released to the public is a certified copy of Obama's birth record, which is not the best evidence since, even under Hawaiian law, the original vault copy is the better evidence. Presumably, the vault record would show whether his birth was registered by a hospital in Hawaii. Without accusing anyone of any wrongdoing, we nevertheless know that some people have gone to great lengths, even in violation of laws, rules and procedures, to confer the many benefits of United States citizenship on themselves and their children. Given the structure of the Hawaiian law, the fact that a parent may register a birth, and the limited but inherent potential for human error within the system, it is possible that a parent of a child born out-of-state could have registered that birth to confer the benefits of U.S.
Citizenship, or simply to avoid bureaucratic hassles at that time or later in the child's life. We don't know whether the standards of registration by the Department of Health were more or less stringent in 1961 (the year of Obama's birth) than they are today. However, especially with post-9/11 scrutiny, we do know that there have been instances of fraudulent registrations of foreign births as American births. From a 2004 Department of Justice news release about multiple New Jersey vital statistics employees engaged in schemes to issue birth certificates to foreign-born individuals: 'An individual who paid Anderson and her co-conspirators for the service of creating the false birth records could then go to Office of Vital Statistics to receive a birth certificate... As part of the investigation, federal agents executed a search warrant of the HCOVS on Feb. 18, 2004, which resulted in the seizure of hundreds of suspect Certificates of Live Birth which falsely indicated that the named individuals were born in Jersey City, when in fact, they were born outside the United States and were in the United States illegally... Bhutta purchased from Goswamy false birth certificates for himself and his three foreign-born children.'
Even before 9/11, government officials acknowledged the 'ease' of obtaining birth certificates fraudulently. From 1999 testimony by one Social Security Administration official: 'Furthermore, the identity data contained in Social Security records are only as reliable as the evidence on which the data are based. The documents that a card applicant must present to establish age, identity, and citizenship, usually a birth certificate and immigration documents-are relatively easy to alter, counterfeit, or obtain fraudulently.' It has been reported that the Kenyan government has sealed Obama's records. If he were born in Kenya, as has been rumored even recently, the Kenyan government would certainly have many incentives to keep that undisclosed. Objectively, of course, those records may prove nothing.
Obama's refusal to release records at many levels here in the United States, though, merely fuels speculation. Obama has refused to disclose the vault copy of his Hawaiian birth certificate. This raises the question whether he himself has established that he is eligible to be President. To date, no state or federal election official, nor any government authority, has verified that he ever established conclusively that he meets the eligibility standard under the Constitution. If the burden of proof were on him, perhaps as it should be for the highest office of any individual in America, the more-than-dozen lawsuits challenging his eligibility would be unnecessary.
Had he disclosed his vault copy in the Berg v. Obama lawsuit (which was the first lawsuit filed on the question of his eligibility to be President), and it was established he was born in Hawaii, that would have constituted res judicata, and acted to stop other similar lawsuits being filed. Without res judicata (meaning, the matter is adjudged and settled conclusively) he or government officials will need to defend other lawsuits, and valuable court resources will be expended. Strategically from a legal standpoint, therefore, his refusal to disclose doesn't make sense. Weighing factors such as costs, resources and complexity of disclosing versus not disclosing, he must have reason of considerable downside in disclosing, or upside in not disclosing. There may be other reasons, but one could speculate that he hasn't disclosed because: 1.
He was not born in Hawaii, and may not be eligible to be President; 2. He was born in Hawaii, but facts that may be derived from his vault copy birth certificate are inconsistent with the life story he has told (and sold); 3.
He was born in Hawaii, and his refusal to provide the best evidence that he is a natural born citizen is a means by which to draw criticism of him in order to make him appear to be a 'victim.' This would energize his supporters. This would also make other charges about him seem suspect, including his concealment about ties to Bill Ayers and others of some infamy. Such a clever yet distasteful tactic would seem to be a Machiavelli- and Saul-Alinsky-style way to manipulate public opinion. But while this tactic may energize his supporters, it would convince those who believe him to be a manipulator that he's not only just that, but a real pro at it. This would indeed be the basest reason of all, and would have repercussions about his trustworthiness (both here and abroad), which Americans know, is a characteristic sorely lacking in its leaders. His motion to dismiss the Berg case for lack of standing could be viewed as contemptuous of the Constitution.
See, 'Are we to expect yet another White House that hides behind lawyers, and expects Americans to swallow half-truths on a just-trust-me basis? This issue poses the potential for a constitutional crisis unlike anything this country has seen. Disclosure at this stage, however, could even result in criminal sanctions. Thus, he has motive not to disclose if he were ineligible.
The question not being asked by the holders of power, who dismiss this as a rightwing conspiracy, is what's the downside of disclosing? This is a legitimate issue of inquiry because Barack Obama has turned it into one.
The growing number of people who demand an answer in conformance with the Constitution are doing their work; the people's watchdogs aren't. Posted by Wild Thing at HUGE Wrong ~ Vietnam Vet Branded a 'Panhandler' This photo was taken a few years ago of his encounter with a 9/11 Truther: ( H/T ) Vietnam vet branded “panhandler” for handing out memorial poppies From Big John is a Vietnam veteran and VFW leader who works tirelessly on charitable efforts for our troops. Last year, my family and I attended his Thanksgiving feast for wounded vets at the VFW in Arlington, VA. John’s got a heart of gold and an infectious, can-do attitude. Now, he’s in trouble. Some petty bureaucrats have branded him a “panhandler” and repeatedly threatened him with arrest for handing out “Buddy Poppies” on the National Mall in Washington, D.C.
The Rutherford Institute has come to his aid: 'A local veteran is speaking out after police threatened to arrest him for distributing ‘Buddy Poppies’ or memorial flowers at the National Mall in Washington D.C. Now the Charlottesville-based Rutherford Institute has stepped in and filed a first amendment lawsuit against the National Park Police. Now the Charlottesville-based Rutherford Institute has stepped in and filed a first amendment lawsuit against the National Park Police. John Miska enjoys volunteering and spends most of time helping injured veterans and distributing ‘Buddy Poppies.’ “They’re handed out as a remembrance of veterans sacrifice. The poppies are red representing the blood the soldiers shed and it’s a reminder and it gives people pause to think,” said John Miska, Veteran.
Recently the National Park Police threatened to arrest Miska for handing out his Poppies on the National Mall in Washington D.C. “People see me standing there and they approach me and ask may I have a Poppy and I give them a Poppy. If people are moved to offer a donation we accept the donations,” said Miska. According to president of the Rutherford Institute Miska hasn’t done anything wrong, he has only expressed his first amendment rights.
“People occasionally give him money. There’s a statute it’s a D.C. Law that says you can’t aggressively solicit money, but he doesn’t do any of that. We feel it’s a violation of the first amendment of the United States Constitution which guarantees you the right to assemble or guarantees you the right to free speech to hand out Buddy Poppies,” said John Whitehead, President, Rutherford Institute.
Miska says this experience isn’t going to stop him from his mission and that it will only encourage him to do more. “I took an oath to the constitution to preserve protect and defend and I feel if you don’t stand up for you rights you will lose those rights,” said Miska.
CBS19 has tried contacting the U.S. Park Police, but they have not returned the phone call. The Rutherford Institute is waiting on the government to answer the complaint. What happens next will depend on the U.S. Attorney General’s response.'
He let me know he’s working on a Christmas party at Walter Reed for 300 wounded soldiers and their families and asked me to spread the word. Any cash donations or gifts would be most welcome. 'We will accept Christmas cards to hand out as well over the Holidays. They must be unsealed so they may be inspected. If someone wants to send a specific gift we will hand out tickets and draw by number to hand out gifts that we receive.
They must be unwrapped and in original factory packaging. If someone wants to send wrapping paper and tape along with a note or card we will include that with gift. A suggestion would be a gift card to a major store, restaurant or gas station with a Christmas card. Donations may be sent to VFW Post 8208 PO Box 653 Ruckersville VA 22923 Place a memo note that donation is Christmas fund.
' We are a 501c19 Veterans Service Organization for tax purposes and will provide IRS donation letters upon request for tax returns.' Wild Thing's comment.. God bless Big John for his service and for all he has done to help our troops and Veterans since. This is so horirble!!! Veterans do this all over our country, I always see them outside a store and buy a poppy from them to wear. It is something I always look forward to.Thank you Mark for the heads up about this.
Posted by Wild Thing at Pittsburgh City Councilwoman Tonya Payne Against The Constitution Council passes controversial bill on stolen guns Pittsburgh City Council gave its first approval today to legislation requiring that anyone report a lost or stolen firearm report that within 24 hours or potentially face a $500 fine. The 6-1 vote, with two abstentions, sets up a final vote likely next week, which would send the legislation to Mayor Luke Ravenstahl for his signature or veto, and then potentially to the courts, where similar measures have been challenged. 'Who really cares about it being unconstitutional?' Said Councilwoman Tonya Payne, a supporter. 'This is what's right to do, and if this means that we have to go out and have a court battle, then that's fine.
We have plenty of dead bodies coming up in our streets every single day, and that is unacceptable.' The lone no vote was by Councilman Ricky Burgess, who argued that it would be a 'false cure' that would be 'particularly cruel' to his violence-plagued northeastern Pittsburgh district. 'This legislation will not strike a blow to straw purchasers,' he said. 'This ordinance will not be enforced, no loopholes will be closed and no lives will be saved, because no municipality can legally regulate firearms of any kind, at any time, for any reason.' Advocates appearing before council today argued that people called straw purchasers frequently buy guns, then sell them to criminals who could not pass the required background checks.
When the guns are used in crimes and traced back to the straw purchaser, he or she just claims the weapon was lost or stolen. Unless that can be disproved, the straw purchaser is off the hook. 'It's a loophole that allows illegal gun traffickers to simply state that a weapon was stolen,' said Councilman William Peduto, one of three authors of the bill along with Council President Doug Shields and Councilman Bruce Kraus. Councilmen Dan Deasy and Patrick Dowd abstained. Dowd said that in passing the measure council is 'not really effectively changing the situation on the ground,' and is inviting a lawsuit.
Philadelphia has sought to enforce similar legislation, but the effort has been tied up in litigation. Legally, the question is whether the state ban on local laws on 'the transfer, ownership, transportation or possession' of guns extends to the reporting of lost or stolen firearms. The Commonwealth Court threw out Philadelphia's measure, and other gun control rules there. The matter is heading for the state Supreme Court.
Wild Thing's comment. So to this woman Tonya Payne says the Constitution doesn’t matter, if it stands in the way of the socialist agenda. Here is a title for this idiot, domestic enemy of the state Tonya Payne.
Buckminster Fuller Cosmography Pdf Printer. And she IS a domestic enemy and should be treated as such. Wear it, own it and never forget it Payne the pian!! Liberals sure are tryants!! She sure looks a lot like Cynthia McKinney, another Obama brain nut case. What is truly amazing about 'ends justifies the means' liberals is that IT NEVER DOES!
She's willing to ignore the constitution for something that isn't even going to do what she hopes it will! She really believes that this is going to somehow end: 'plenty of dead bodies coming up in our streets every single day, and that is unacceptable.' The two things have nothing to do with each other; this legislation is not going to stop dead bodies coming up in our streets! The Loon's premise is flawed. She's willing to throw the constitution out for some pie in the sky wishing game. Every last liberal is an idiot..Thank you RAC for sending this to me.
RAC has a website that is awesome. 13th Combat Aviation Battalion - 1st Aviation Brigade - Soc Trang, Republic of Vietnam Posted by Wild Thing at Just Asking Rathergate II: Certification of Live Birth a clear forgery The media bought it.
The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that Barack Obama's 'birth certificate' has been posted online. What was posted was.